SIMON BROWN: I’m chatting now with Tourism Business Council [of South Africa] CEO, Tshifhiwa Tshivhengwa. Tshifhiwa, I appreciate the time this morning. Our holiday season last year was sort of gearing up to be great, then suddenly Omicron came along, the British closed borders, and so on. It reopened I think around mid-December and got back to some level of normality. Did we see from your sense much foreign tourism coming into South Africa over the recent holiday season?
TSHIFHIWA TSHIVHENGWA: Well, we didn’t see a lot of foreign visitors coming into South Africa during this season, due to the reasons that you have mentioned and the fact that we got off the ‘red list’ much later in the middle of December – so to speak across our Christmas. So we didn’t see many UK visitors and we didn’t see many European visitors because all the countries sort of followed later or as soon as they started to understand that Omicron was also in their own country and they could easily…